Discussion: Allegiant by Veronica Roth

Posted October 30, 2013 by Felicia S in 2013 Read, 3.00 Wine Glasses, Book Shout Outs, Reviews / 19 Comments

Discussion: Allegiant by Veronica RothSource: Audiobook Purchase, Physical Book Purchase

Format: Audiobook

Allegiant by Veronica Roth
Narrator: Aaron Stanford, Emma Galvin
Length: 11 hrs and 51 mins

Date Read: October 2013

Genre: Dystopian, YA

One choice will define you.

What if your whole world was a lie?
What if a single revelation—like a single choice—changed everything?
What if love and loyalty made you do things you never expected?

The faction-based society that Tris Prior once believed in is shattered—fractured by violence and power struggles and scarred by loss and betrayal. So when offered a chance to explore the world past the limits she’s known, Tris is ready. Perhaps beyond the fence, she and Tobias will find a simple new life together, free from complicated lies, tangled loyalties, and painful memories.

But Tris’s new reality is even more alarming than the one she left behind. Old discoveries are quickly rendered meaningless. Explosive new truths change the hearts of those she loves. And once again, Tris must battle to comprehend the complexities of human nature—and of herself—while facing impossible choices about courage, allegiance, sacrifice, and love.

Told from a riveting dual perspective, Allegiant, by #1 New York Times best-selling author Veronica Roth, brings the Divergent series to a powerful conclusion while revealing the secrets of the dystopian world that has captivated millions of readers in Divergent and Insurgent.

More Information:
Publisher: HarperCollins
Series: Divergent #3

Also by this author: Divergent, Divergent
Also in this series: Divergent, Divergent
My Thoughts on
Read from October 23 to 28, 2013

Read/Listened for Fun (Hardcover/Audible)
Overall Rating: 3.00
Story Rating: 3.25
Character Rating: 2.75

Audio Rating: 4.00 (not part of the overall rating)

First Thought when Finished: Allegiant kind of sealed the deal that YA Dystopian trilogies and my expectations hardly ever mesh.

Instead of a review I am going to explain my experience (to this point) with ending books in YA Dystopian trilogies.

Please Note: I don’t read a lot of YA so having the same exact experience with two different series in one sub-genre denotes a pattern to me. Also, I believe the author should write the story they want to tell. This is not a bash against the author for choosing to tell their stories in a way they saw fit. This is my experience as a limited-YA reader.

Why I love Veronica Roth on a whole: “I’m the author, yes, but this book is yours as well as mine now, and our voices are equal in this conversation.” You really should read her article on why she chose to end the series the way that she did.  You read it here: http://veronicarothbooks.blogspot.com/2013/10/about-end-of-allegiant-spoilers.html

The 2 Series: The Hunger Games and Divergent

Book 1 (in both series): I liked enough to make me want to read book 2
Book 2 (in both series): Was my absolute favorite! Made me excited for book 3
Book 3 (in both series): Was a total struggle to even finish and by the end I just didn’t care.

What went wrong for me (examples will be given from Allegiant since I wrote a review of Mockingjay)….

The Characters (other than the leads): Through the course of both series I formed strong attachments to certain side characters (good, bad, borderline). They played strong parts in the first or second (or both) books but in the third book either acted out of character or was given a two second wrap-up that totally seemed to diminish their importance. This frustrated me to no end. I would argue that the side characters are what made both of these stories work so darn well in book 2 (the books I loved in both instances). Example: Four’s (Tobias) mom doing what she did at the end of the story. While I “got’ it. The choice (and reaction) were to neat for that storyline.

The Leads: In both series, the final book turned strong confident characters into unrecognizable whiners that had brief moments of the characters that I had grown to love. They made choices that made me go “huh” and went against what I would expect of them. Oddly enough, Tris’ choice at the end is what made me rate Allegiant a 3 instead of a 2. That choice has most people in a uproar but to me it was one of the few times I saw the Tris that I had been rooting for. The reason I loved the beginning of both of these stories was the strong female protagonist. They were examples I thought fitting for strong young woman coming up in the world. The guys were not much better other than I think Peeta. I believe he was the most “in character” with all his decisions and reactions. Example from Allegiant: Four almost through out the whole entire last book where almost anything was concerned. He seemed unsure and angry at everything. He made choices that just had me shaking my head. Tris wasn’t that much better but towards the end she seemed to snap out of it and forge ahead.

The Story: The endings left me wanting but I couldn’t exactly tell you for what. The characters changed so much during the last books that by the end, I either didn’t care or was hoping for something HUGE to bring out the inner fire that I loved in all the characters. That just didn’t happen in Mockingjay and with Allegiant it happened with Tris but not Four. I just felt let down after investing so much into caring about these characters. For Example: In Allegiant after Tris makes her decision, Four’s reaction left me a bit cold. I cried for Tris but Four just made me feel “meh”. I know I should have had a stronger reaction but just couldn’t muster it.

The Shock Value: Both stories had twists (several) that were supposed to make you squeek and go “oh my”. Problem is that by the 3rd or 4th one I just didn’t care. I was more like “oh I bet there will be another one before the end”. At some point there were just too many. Example: By the time we got to Four and his mom (not giving away what happens there), I honestly didn’t care. It was just one more twist that was supposed to have an emotional impact but by then the whole thing had just boiled down to “let’s just get it done” for me.

The Different Ratings: I gave Mockingjay a 2.75 and Allegiant a 3.0–the difference was that I felt Tris in the end was true to her character. I didn’t feel that with Katniss. I ended up rating both end books slightly higher than if they had been stand alone books because I felt like overall the series was a good read (especially book 2 in both).

I am still holding out hope for Horde by Ann Aguirre! Maybe this will break my YA Dystopian curse. If not, I may just forgo the trilogies in the future as they might not be a good fit for me as a reader.

The Audio for Allegiant was excellent! The only problem I had was the dual POV’s overall and that made me read 60% of the story. This was not the fault of the narrators. It was just a story telling device that did not work for me.
FTC Disclosure


Overall Rating
3 / 5
Story Rating
3.5 / 5
Character Rating
2.5 / 5
Narrator Rating
4 / 5
Felicia S
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19 responses to “Discussion: Allegiant by Veronica Roth

  1. I haven’t read any of the Divergent books yet, but really want to (so I kind of skimmed this post to avoid spoilers). I think I know what you’re saying though – even if I am a huge fan of YA. I liked the Hunger Games trilogy, but for me I was happiest with book 1. Book 2 was still great, but book 3 really didn’t work that well for me. I wonder if I’ll have a similar response when I get to Divergent.

  2. I am not a big YA reader Felicia, and I really don’t like dystopian, so there is nothing I can recommend you. Just relax with a nice fun cozy to get your reading mood back.

  3. Interesting points. I’m also a limited-YA reader but I liked all three books in The Hunger Games trilogy. I’ve been hesitant to read the Divergent series because the premise didn’t seem very interesting to me. Now at least I know I’m not missing much. 😀

  4. I completely understand you, this book was a little off for me, but mostly because Four was a different person I don’t see their relationship working.

    They don’t discuss things like normal people, only make out. It was a sad book and felt like it never ended.

    Loved your review and I think we have the same problems with these YAs. I never got to Mockinjay fearing the end.

  5. Amy

    Hummm..,,,I’m waiting for the library’s audio. So I should just go for the book?

    Bums me out a little, but I have a little hope flickering. I think I may be one of the few that could deal with where Mockingjay went in the end. Heart-broken still.

  6. I haven’t read this series yet but this is my current favorite genre. That being sad, with these books being so popular right now the market is so flooded. Great for the authors and publishers, not always so great for the readers :/. Great review! I can’t wait to read it and see what the fuss is all about 🙂

  7. I thought book two really faltered. I did not the way what’s her name… whined and cried the whole book she was so annoying. I am going read this and I want to do it soon not because I want to but more so that it isn’t spoiled. I have come this far…. I can assure you wholeheartedly that Aguirre’s Horde is amazing. The trilogy isn’t disappointing at all.

  8. I still have to read this, and personally and I may get shot for this, but I never finished Hunger Games, and I have read better in this genre both in adult and YA. Lauren Oliver’s series got a lot of slack for the open ending she gave Requiem but I actual though she did it right. I am picky when it comes to YA so don’t feel bad.

  9. I still haven’t read the Hunger Games (have it on my tbr) and so need to do that! I know about the last book and how people were disappointed in that one. I also need to read the second book in this series yet… so I’m not there. I still have a pretty good book to go. 🙂 As far as the last book disappointing me, it doesn’t surprise me. Often the last book in the series is my worst book experience. People often talk about second book syndrome, but for me it is usually the last book. 😛 Still, will probably read this one in the end. 😀

  10. We already chatted a little bit about this but, yeah, I rated it a 3 also. I spent too much of the book skimming and wanting more…but also wanting the characters that I knew and loved to really make an appearance. Too much whining. And, after reading your review, yeah, too many reveals of “ooh, this should be shocking” stuff. *sigh* I hate when a series ends with a whimper (I’m looking at you, Hunger Games!).

  11. I absolutely agree with you for both series. Mockingjay felt like it was written by a different author.

    With both eerie sthe first two books laid out a very intricate plot that seemed to be leading to something epic, then it all fell apart to this slow-yet rushed (if that makes sense) conclusion.

    I’m not upset with Roth’s choices but it didn’t seem like a good circumstance for said choice so it didn’t have any real impact on me other than that was a stupid reason. I think it totally fit with the character – just not in that particular case.

    I thought what happened in the epilogue was the only thing that stayed true to them but the whole thing otherwise again…fell flat. Yay! Everyone is happy and has a job. Bleh….lol

    Mockinjay kind of devastated me as a reader. I loved that series with reckless abandon lol I’m so cautious now.

    I’m somewhat biased because I loved Horde and how that series ended. You may not end up liking as much as I did but I don’t think you will be disappointed in the characters or conclusion.

    P.S. Above comment – they’ve been calling 2 book series Duologies. (which I hate – doesn’t flow)

  12. I only saw your ratings, I already bought the audio, but I have not listened yet 🙁 I’ll be back to read your thoughts and share mine when I finish. I’m scared now..LOL

  13. Veronica is being very classy during this Allegiant backlash. I also rated it a 3, the ending shocked me, but a lot of the book just bored me too 🙁 I raced through it so I could read it unspoiled.

    I didn’t have the same disappointment with Mockingjay as a lot of people had, but Allegiant missed the mark for me.

    When some time has passed though I do want to re-read / listen to the series as a whole.

    Loved the narrators though and that helped me to stick with it. I think that some readers had a hard time telling between the voice of Four and Tris, so in that sense the audio is probably a good choice.

    Great discussion, Felicia. Group hug!

  14. I won’t be reading Allegiant Felicia, I know what happens and I know me and those two things just don’t go well together. I think Veronica is an outstanding storyteller and this is her book and she should be able to write it as she sees fit, I just know the ending won’t work at all for me. I agree completely on Mockingjay, I was on a high when I wrote my review for it, and then the more I thought about that book, the more disappointed in it I became. I didn’t think Katniss was true to her character at all in the end either. I’m glad you at least felt Tris was!

    I adored Horde, I can’t wait to see what you think!

    • The ending (both things) I knew were coming and still felt that the did the series a disservice. Though Tris “reasons” were in character what happened was just something that I didn’t think needed to happen. Four though *sigh*.

      Good to hear it about Horde. I am listening to Outpost now and then will listen to it. I am hoping it breaks my curse 🙂